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By: F30

Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:03:06

"Bedankt!" as translation for "Thanks!" sounds quite strange to a German native speaker. You would say "Danke!".

By: Luca

Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:28:47

Really a good work, guys! I appreciate your idea and the time you are spending in this project, in spite of all the problems of the server (I'm italian). I will use Ecocho even if it uses only Japanese or Swaili, but it's good to see that there's someone out there that is working for a translated version... I'm really happy to use Ecocho and the only thing I can say to you is GRAZIE MILLE!!! (sound like thanks a lot)

By: ecocho

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:12:09

Thanks Luca! We appreciate it. Ecocho is already creating a global community of people wanting to change the way we think about the environment for the better - what could be cooler than that?! Grazie mille anche! Alex Ecocho P.S. Thanks for the tip, F30, apologies too - I shall use "danke" only from now on!

By: MD Kniese

Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:18:22

Hi, Out of curiosity, are there plans for Ecocho to work with the new search engine Cuil (http://www.cuil.com/)? Might gain us some extra trees :)

By: ecocho

Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:34:30

Hi there MD. We have no plans in place to contact Cuil just yet. Cuil is a very new search engine (born only last week!) so we'll have to see how it goes. It could prove to be a useful search engine on the web in the future, but only time will tell. Cheers for the idea though! Alex Ecocho

By: ananthakrishnan

Sat, 16 Aug 2008 03:29:38

Try to switch faster to a new server,Because we people depend on you.So please be hurry,we don't want to loose our time and faith.

By: simona

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:36:59

hi guys very good idea! COMPLIMENTI! Just to make it better, however, take a look at your italian site. I would strongly suggest you to check the Italian language because it is full of mistakes and mistranslated sentences. I would definitely trust more a site that speaks my language correctly. simona

By: Alex

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:13:19

Hi ecocho, what happened to the european servers (ecocho.eu)? Why are they down? Only for Maintaining or is there an other issue? I would like to see a blog post about this ;-) greets Alex

By: Georg Meyer

Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:51:18

You really do need to fix the problem with your server, the toolbar ist next to useless right now. Please, at least Blog something so that we know where the problem is and when it will be solved. George

By: Roberta

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:00:04

ooooo my good i'm italian... i dont understand nothing!!!!!! ihihihih comunque è un'idea grandiosa!!!

By: Dennis Lonndon

Mon, 19 May 2008 06:46:42

Yes, it runs perfectly on my Firefox 2.0.0. Thanks to you and to your team. Dennis Lonndon P.S. I wrote a email to adsense-support@google.com to express my disappointment to Google team but no one answered me. I'm making myself familiar with Yahoo.

By: George

Tue, 20 May 2008 12:24:52

Hi Team, great, thanks for the update. I would need a few more things to replace my googlebar. First, most important, text highlighting in different colours. Than there should be severyl buttons for news and pictures, at least optional. Best would be to make it costumizable with the option to place buttons whereever you like. Anyway, I see you guys are putting a real effort here. I try to use Ecocho as often as possible. Way to go! George

By: Lisa

Sat, 24 May 2008 06:02:27

I have to agree with Dennis; it runs absolutely perfect on my Firefox 2.0.0.14. Thanks! lisa

By: mauro

Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:05:04

no more news? no more users?

By: Sideburns

Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:05:59

Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway ... nice blog to visit. cheers, Sideburns!

By: Katherijne Pino

Wed, 14 May 2008 20:55:25

Dear Ecocho, I am sorry I have to do this this way, but your commentfield on the website doesn't work and I really need to contact you. I am writing a news item about Ecocho for the Amsterdam 'Krant van de Aarde' ('Newspaper of the Earth'). This is an idealistic magazine that is part of a Dutch foundation (Dag van de Aarde > Day of the Earth) that wants to stimulate people (main objective young people, students) in living a healthy and durable lifestyle, regardless their nationality, religion or political prefference. And I am wondering if it would be possible to receive a high res image, logo or illustration to go with my article about Ecocho? My deadline is May 21th I'm looking forward to your respons. With kind regards, Katherijne Pino Pinoèsque Katherijne Pino Sint-Jobskade 234 3024 EN Rotterdam (0031)- (0) 6 41 37 87 87 kat@pinoesque.nl www.pinoesque.nl

By: Jojo

Fri, 16 May 2008 22:01:14

Thank you very much. Indeed this helped a lot. The only problem I had was in 1). You write: 'When on the Opera search home page, right-click ...' After reading that I went on Opera's home page. That was the problem because it should be your home page not Opera's. Right-clicking on the search-box(your Ecocho-search-box not that of Opera) you get the menues you described later. After all, thank you very much again and greatings from Germany! bye

By: ecocho

Mon, 19 May 2008 00:24:06

Hi Jojo, Sorry, yes! I think I did mean the Ecocho search home page on the Opera browser, rather than the Opera search home page. I'm pleased you were able to fix the issue though. We're fairly confident that on all browsers a way can be found to install Ecocho search as an add-on. We're always working on new tools & add-ons too, but one thing at a time! Thanks for persevering. Greetings to Germany! Alex Ecocho Web Producer

By: geoff

Sun, 04 May 2008 07:00:42

question for ecocho: will you open your logs and release the precise number of searches that are being done on this website? how do we know how may searches are being done and therefore verify that the right number of trees are being planted? you say in your FAQ that you don't allow computer programs or bots to do searches. so I assume that you exclude anything u consider to be an automated search from your total search volumes? how do u detect them? what other type of searches do you remove from your search "totals"? how can we have any confidence in the number of searches that you claim are being done? does yahoo verify this? maybe they can answer this question and publish these details or comment on this thread?

By: ecocho

Tue, 06 May 2008 05:20:57

Hi Geoff, Thanks for your comment. The search logs for Ecocho are very large and so would be difficult to present easily. In addition, search logs can be amended if it is a company's intention to deceive, so it wouldn't really be an ideal solution to your query. We are trying to be as transparent as possible, although we appreciate your concerns. If you can think of a fool proof way that we can be verified regarding the number of searches performed (without it costing a fortune!!), we'd love to hear of it. We are open to user feedback as much as possible. Thanks, Alex Ecocho's Web Producer

By: Marilena

Wed, 07 May 2008 04:56:34

I just have to say I love this initiative! It may not be able to save an entire planet but it's part of all those things we could do to change the direction of things...

By: Whitney K

Wed, 07 May 2008 06:27:38

Not to be a jerk...but is there any proof that money from your ads really does go towards planting trees? I was trying to spread the word of your site to friends, but some weren't for sure about the legitimacy of claims. So is the way of our desensitized generation. Thanks for your time, Whitney

By: ecocho

Wed, 07 May 2008 09:39:56

Thanks for your comment Whitney. People will always want to be as sure as possible that they are supporting a genuine initiative, and rightly so too. We are trying to be as clear as we can about how we're accredited. That's why we've put the tree counter right on our home page (which you will see is affected by searches directly). We've also put a link to a page outlining how we're verified (the link is actually titled "How we're verified", to keep it clear). We only ever use Government-issued carbon offset credits. This means that we don't say that we're planting the trees personally (which would admittedly be very open to cynicism) but instead invest in Government-issued carbon credits. These credits go towards Government tree-planting projects (via the Greenhouse Gas Abatement Scheme - the first local government mandatory emissions scheme in the world, which was born directly from incentives outlined in the Kyoto Protocol agreement). On top of this, acquisition, registration and retirement of all our carbon offset credits is audited (at our request and cost) by KPMG, one of the world's leading professional services firms. Please do ask more questions if this hasn't helped. I hope it has!! Thanks, Alex Ecocho's Web Producer

By: Valentina

Wed, 07 May 2008 21:48:47

Sorry Alex, I think there's some problems out there. 23.47, Wednsday, Italian time. I tried to look for "Sprea" and obtained only a white page with this text. Fatal error: Call to undefined function curl_init() in /home/ecochoc/public_html/yahoo/class/class.feed.php on line 121 Hope it can be useful for you to solve the problem.

By: ecocho

Thu, 08 May 2008 00:16:22

Hi Valentina, Thanks for letting me know about that. Max is working on it right now. It was a problem with our hosting. We thought that the error had been fixed but unfortunately it's still live. Hopefully it'll be sorted later today. Thanks for your patience :) Please keep the feedback coming guys. Letting us know how we can improve the site (or about any errors you find) is really helping us make the site better. Cheers, Alex Ecocho's Web Producer

By: Jojo

Thu, 08 May 2008 07:54:51

Hey Alex, why aren't there any toolbar and add-ons for Opera? When I heard of your project I already imagined changing all my search-settings from google to ecocho. But then I noticed, there is no toolbar for Opera. That's pretty sad. I would like to search only with ecocho! Anyway, great job you do there!

By: ecocho

Mon, 12 May 2008 01:14:39

Hi Jojo, Ah, add-ons for Opera! Yes, we have been asked by a few Opera users. We'd love to be able to offer add-ons for all browsers overnight! Unfortunately, we're a very small team here so we have to do things gradually. We'll certainly look into doing stuff for Opera as soon as possible. We do appreciate you saying that you'd like to use only Ecocho for your web searches, that's awesome! Thanks for your interest. Alex

By: marc

Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:22:34

Gratlations to the 2,000,000th search query! marc

By: David

Fri, 02 May 2008 14:28:52

An interesting fact I found after doing some searching, using Ecocho of course! The average American produces 19.5 tonnes of CO2 per year, the figures are probably somewhat less for most other nationalities, but I couldn't find figures for other countries. Assuming that Ecocho plants 2 trees for every 1,000 searches made, you'd need to submit 19,500 search queries to counter your carbon emissions. That sounds a lot but it's only 53 searches per day, count how many times you enter a search and you may be surprised how many you make. I've found a lot of variance in figures on the net, one site quotes the average person produces only 2 tonnes of CO2 annually (this could be for the whole of the population I suppose) and another claims that each tree planted absorbs 4 tonnes of CO2 in it's lifetime, Ecocho quotes half a tonne. Again this would depend on the types of tree being planted and their environment etc.

By: Enrico

Sat, 03 May 2008 12:48:49

Hi, I draw your attention to the fact that the problems created by a person in one year require a lifetime (TBD) of a tree to be rectified. I appreciate your initiative and I use your ecocho website, but please don't promote the idea that ecosearching will be enough to counterbalance our enviroment unfriendly habits. We do need to rethink our economies and our purchasing habits. Think before you spend! Ciao.

By: Enrico

Mon, 05 May 2008 10:36:15

Many friends to whom I reccommended your website asked me the following question: are you sure they really plant trees? Apparently the KPMG certification is not enough to convince people. Why don't you provide a little bit more info on where trees are planted, how you can assure that will be preserved overtime. Maybe adding some pics could be useful even if not enough. Ciao. Enrico.

By: Valentina

Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:40:39

If you move the selection for black and white version to the left of the logo you oculd put the "web" and "images" button under the typing bar. There the buttons would be most visible, while the choice for version is a thing a user does only once, so I think it's less important for it to be seen always. How do you like it?

By: George

Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:57:48

For those of us with bigger displays, we do need a better toolbar. It needs to be more like, whell, Googles. We need image search, translating functions, spell checking, news search and all that stuff. And, most important for me, we need a marker function, highlighting and coloring text. Maybe you can corporate with several partners to provide these functions.

By: Alessandro

Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:27:19

I'm for two buttons either!

By: Dutchduc

Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:47:24

Yes, i hope you guys can put it on the frontpage soon, because it's very irritating right now. Dutchduc

By: picture

Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:40:20

good Thank you

By: Alexander Broy

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:21:54

Ask MSN to support you. They probably will enjoy the google discussion and want to work together with yahoo and you guys. I personally still support you and I am ecochoing more than googleing :-)

By: Jelle Meurrens

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:31:45

I can only say booh to google. very lame of them to sack such great project.

By: Ron

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:56:28

I don't understand why they don't want to work together with Ecocho.com.. their energy use is huge, and so is the cO2 they produce. I really hate companies being ignorant as they are. Can't we set up some petition ?

By: Silex

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:26:34

Really love this concept! I really love the black version as well! Though I really do support you, at the moment I'm using Blackle more, why? Because Google is still the better search engine. Sorry for that guys. Good luck in getting Google back! I really think this is kind of bitchy! Don't be evil Google guys!!! @Alexander: Oh, please, I would certainly not use Ecocho is Live Search would be on it instead of Google, no, really, live search makes me vomit!

By: TRON

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:11:38

:-( No matter what happens I suggest you to abandon Google and Microsoft. I personally don't trust both of these companies. Google is an information superpower and Microsoft is just a pirate of silicon valley. Better use local search engines like metager or fastbot. There are also lots of different search engines out there whose search results in collaboration equal the results of google. This applies to quantity as well as quality.

By: Sweety

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:40:05

Hi ! What a strange company google is ! I read many bad news about google, and now google shows itself, that it is worse than ever thought ! I'm happy to be able now to avoid google ! Let's plant a lot of trees ! :-))

By: nonex

Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:37:48

Yeah, I mean, google is agreat project, but is not the only one, besides I think this is for the trees, and everyone who lives in this planet should support that, we need trees!!!!!! Good work ECOCHO.

By: Bas

Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:59:33

Yeah, in the past I heard people being negative regarding Google, but I was always sceptical. Now I am starting to understand them. It's wrong for people to assume that Yahoo! is a good company, because Google is showing their bad side. Just do some research into Yahoo! and see how unethical they are (look into Yahoo & China for instance). I hope Google will submit though.

By: Tony

Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:21:09

I don't know a lot about Google.com as a company, but I will say that I know for a fact they are involved in TONS of charitable projects and donate tons of time, money and resources to good causes all over the world. I think ecocho.com is great and I hope Google comes around to help out again.

By: Peter

Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:24:19

Its pretty simple, Google got big, they think they can run the show, a bit like Microsoft have tried to do. All you have to do is make it so successfull that Google beg to come back, then you can give them the finger! Probably worth going to all the people Google hate as well and trying to do deals with them. Google searches these days are becoming more diluted with poorly target adverts and results that are way off the mark, who needs them? Keep up the good work. Pete

By: herbert

Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:19:54

but you understand the issues here? If i offer an incentive to use my website to search Google, there is a problem for all the advertisers on ad sense as people may be searching and clicking on their ads just to get the incentive. Also lets say on my website i say i will plant a tree for every 1000 searches. It may only cost £2 to plant a tree but the revenue from a 1000 searches could be be over £1000 in revenue. Is that fair?

By: Edward Bui

Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:45:57

this sucks screw ecocho google for life if u cant get google back then from now im not using this site yahoo search is lame.

By: Marcus

Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:52:03

Herbert, Yes, but up to 70% of this 1000GBP revenue goes back into the green initiatives Ecocho is involved with. And they're backed by KPMG, a world renowned audit firm.

By: Maarten

Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:54:35

This really does suck balls.. I don't like searching with Yahoo, it gives different searches than google and sometimes when I type the name of a website, the link to that website is on the second page.. Google must come back!

By: Narges

Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:40:12

Hi…. thank you for your admirable activity, i am Iranian, and when i understood about your site, discribed it on my weblog , this weblog is farsi but is about global environment sure, friends of environment will be encourager and sum of your activity.

By: zupakomputer

Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:19:33

I'm surprised at Google, usually they are supportive of ecological projects. Is the problem that the Google results returned by Echocho are not including adsense, or is the problem that they do include it? If they're included then they could be exempted from any redirects with a disclaimer highlighted as to that, so that people do not click them to generate more searches. Co-incidently, before I heard about Ecocho the other day, I happened upon the adsense service and was reading about it; it looks like it has a flaw that could be exploited - you could click someone's advert many times and that causes them to owe more money to Google, but what if a rival or just some destructive person does many clicks but isn't interested in buying?!

By: P.H

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:40:09

Ecocho is not the only one that Google has stopped serving search results. Google have also stopped serving search results to Darkoogle.com which was the second most popular black Google. The thing about it is that Darkoogle was exactly the same as Blackle, so if they stopped serving search result to Darkoogle, then they should also do the same to Blackle. I'm sure all Google staff knows about Blackle. So why Blackle is still up???

By: JamesH

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:51:06

Where exactly in your summary of dates that you met with Google does Google explicitly give approval for the use of Adsense on Ecocho?

By: webbiamo.com

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:01:45

I can use Google engine in my personal/business site. So, why don't you can use it ? Probably only for an economic question about adsense. But, how can you pay the trees ? Simply Google has not echologic values, only it has economic values.

By: Hans

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:29:11

I DO NOT TRUST GOOGLE, NO ONE SHOULD!

By: Kimber

Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:02:43

I think Google has done the right thing. Firstly, even though you say ecocho will use its ad income to plant trees. But have you consider the energy that your website will be using? Extra energy are used to hosting this website ecocho and every time we query a search, your website sends the query to yahoo and then takes that result and display it back on here. Secondly, what if no one clicks on those ads ? then does that mean your ecocho will only be wasting energy and money? in this case, everyone should just keep clicking on the ads and have you to make income and then plant trees. Then you will be living off an easy business model where people just help you clicking ads and wasting advertiser's money while you make money. I hope this comment will not be removed, or else it will just mean only positive comments are allow.

By: Pelle Boese

Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:51:02

Well, on one hand I think it's a pretty bad decision google made here. On the other hand... how naive must one be to use a verbally agreement with a big company as the the basement of a business? I mean if you had a contract, signed by both, you and google, I would say "right, google is completely wrong". But the way you describe it, all you had was an agreement from some google employee from the adsense(?!) department...

By: ecocho

Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:51:38

Hi everyone, I thought I'd reply to a couple of posts. We're a very small team of people here, so it's hard to get through all emails and comments, but we do try to get around to answering as many as posible. We do read all your concerns and suggestions however and consider all comments. Thanks for your comment, Herbert. Due to Adsense & Yahoo rules we can't talk about specific revenue generated per search. However, we can assure you that Ecocho earns nothing remotely close to £1,000 per 1,000 searches. If you divided that revenue guestimate by 100, then it'd still be too high - i.e. not even 1% of that revenue suggestion. Please read Tim's comment below (Tue, 29 Apr) on "Ecocho growing fast!" to get a clearer picture of how Ecocho is doing and the revenue side of things. Hope this is a bit clearer. Thanks for all your comments, guys. Alex Ecocho's Web Producer

By: ecocho

Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:02:48

Hi Kimber, Please rest assured that we don't only publish positive comments. You'll see quite a few published comments here that demonstrate this. We must reserve the right to monitor comments for spam and/or potential defamation issues etc however, and hope you guys can understand that. To answer your specific questions, Ecocho has never enouraged users to click on ads. We won't be changing our stance on that any time soon. We have similarly never received any communication from Google or Yahoo to suggest that Ecocho users were improperly clicking on ads. Our own data also suggests that nothing untoward was, or is, occuring for advertisers. Also, just for the record, Ecocho has made a loss at this point in time, not a profit. Please see Tim's comment on the post below about this very issue. Thanks for your comment though, we appreciate it. Alex Ecocho’s Web Producer

By: herbert

Thu, 01 May 2008 23:19:13

Hi alex, I didnt actually mean that Ecocho must earn £1000 per 1000 searches i was just using that figure as an example. Lets say i had a 'save the rabbits' search engine, and i built a house for a rabbit every 1000 searches, it may cost £2 to build a house for a rabbit but click through rates per 1000 could be £100. So where as i mean well, i know that i can turn a profit quite easily, and people are using my site and clicking on ads thinking they are helping rabbit, which they are, but they are also changing there normal searching behavior and are also helping me buy a Ferrari. Im not asking you to disclose your adsense figures or even revenue as thats unfair, im just wondering if you see my point of view how search behavior can change when there is a incentive involved which means the poor guy buying adwords could be wasting money etc. But i like your site and wish you the best of luck, you respond to user suggestions and thats the sign of a good company

By: David

Fri, 02 May 2008 14:04:07

Interesting comment Kimber, you wouldn't happen to be Richard Kimber of Google SE Asia would you? http://www.google.com.au/press/pressrel/kimber.html Unless you have some hard figures to back up your argument then it's pretty pointless. I'd be pretty sure that the amount of carbon generated hosting this site and send queries via Yahoo is negligable compared to how much a tree will suck up over its lifetime of many decades. Until you can get figures to disprove that, I'm sticking with Ecocho.

By: Sebastian

Sun, 04 May 2008 09:18:26

Maybe other Search Engines help you, like Wikia, Altavista or ASK.com Sebastian

By: Grünes Suchen ohne Google - Sebastian Fuss

Sun, 04 May 2008 09:24:33

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By: Manuel

Wed, 07 May 2008 12:51:25

before getting disappointed with Google you should check out Google.org, and you will understand how social responsible Google is

By: Maarten

Tue, 20 May 2008 16:04:09

Is google ever comming back?

By: Valentina

Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:25:52

For all who can read Italian: take a look at this (Alex, I suppose you can). http://punto-informatico.it/2265367/PI/News/Ecocho--Google-stacca-la-spina/p.aspx Punto Informatico, the web magazine I wrote to yesterday, has already talked about Google denial. Go-go Cho!

By: Johnno

Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:52:47

Tried loggin into the government site. It seems too many people have entered the wrong password. U guys aware of this?

By: Gianni

Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:58:51

Great! Finally Italy is in top of a Top Ten for something good! Viva l'Italia! :)

By: Chris

Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:30:10

"you can log in to the government’s own GGAS website here: https://www.ggas-registry.nsw.gov.au/ and using our organisation name (Ecocho), username (Guest) and our password (guestecocho01), you can see the exact amount of credits we have bought and retired" Actually we cant log in.. "Cannot Login. You have exceeded maximum number of unsuccessful logins. Your account has been suspended! Please contact the Registry Key User within your organisation to have your password reset. If your key user is not available please contact the Help Desk on 1800 006 797."

By: ecocho

Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:38:32

Hi guys, We have just discovered that our account has exceeded the number of incorrect logins. We are working to fix this right now. I guess that's one of the problems with having a universal login!! We are trying to be as transparent as possible though, which is why anyone can log in. We'll let you know as soon as its fixed. Alex @ Ecocho

By: Roger

Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:39:45

The username and password are case sensitive. Seems too many people didn't enter them correctly, thus the suspension :(

By: ecocho

Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:40:10

Gianni, does that mean you're not a calcio fan?! Italy are consistently top ten (and won the world cup I might add!)! Of course, top ten of Ecocho is far more important ;) Alex

By: ecocho

Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:51:43

Thanks very much for spreading the word, Valentina. The article was good, it was pretty fair to us. We really appreciate all the work you guys are doing for Ecocho! Alex

By: ecocho

Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:14:13

Hi guys, We've received the new login from the Government site. It will (hopefully!) be much better now as the password is all lower case (as some of you had noted may be causing the problem!!). Organization – ecocho User - ecocho Password - ecocho99 Apparently this website is intended for Internet Explorer rather than Firefox. I have tested it and it does work much better in IE. Anyway, the credits are there and visible, so it's all good. Hope this helps! Alex

By: Tom

Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:40:53

Perhaps you should get Tim McDonald to respond to the article below... http://www.smh.com.au/news/web/google-puts-kybosh-on-eco-search-engine/2008/04/23/1208743015487.html

By: Massimo

Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:32:11

L'Italia è piena di energia positiva, ha tanta voglia di nuovo, ma spesso non riesce a dimostrarlo. Finalmente con Ecocho lo sta facendo.

By: José

Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:52:50

Concernant la comsommation, des écrans sur des sites avec fond noir, c'est vrai que pour des écrans LCD ça change presque rien, mais pour les écrans à tube cathodique (encore 15% du marché) ceux-ci consomment en moyenne 48% de moins pour afficher le noir que le blanc. Il y a pas de petits gestes! José

By: ecocho

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:27:44

Thanks for your post José! We hope you like the new black version of Ecocho. It seems that even the scientists don't agree about the extent of usefulness of a black background website over a white background website, but every little helps, so we hope Ecocho Lo can! Alex @ Ecocho

By: Jim

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:41:54

No wonder Google stopped serving this mob. Just another Greenie rip-off scam like Earth Hour. Despite the rantings of Pope Al Gore 1 and Flim-Flam Flummery, hundreds of honest scientists are now coming out to prove "global warming" and "carbon neutral" are just huge cons. The sad part is just how many gullible people have been taken in by all this rubbish.

By: Marquez

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:53:10

"Rip off scam"? Oh, like www.ripple.org or www.veosearch.com (as that other article mentions)? Why won't Google answer why Ecocho is different to those sites (which Google has conveniently left alone)? From supposed past (and unrelated) "naughtiness"?! Ecocho rattled Google, simple as. Google paints this image of "feeding your soul" if you work for them - owning your soul and feeding their pockets more like. Shame on them for turning their back on Ecocho, which I reckon was genuinely trying to do some good, whatever the cynics say.

By: Emily

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:24:38

Goodness gracious who is Jim? Whether you believe in global warming or not, surely there is no harm in planting trees?? Why would you prefer Google-folk to just get fatter and fatter on their cash than support a major tree planting project. (PS - just realised I am wearing my "plant more trees" t-shirt. How apt! :-)

By: Tom

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:55:13

Marquez, The other searches function because they are giving their money to recognised charities. Planting a tree, as admirable as it is, is not a charity. Hence it is incentive based. I can understand why Google pulled out. Whether Ecocho had certain discussions with Google is besides the point. Ecocho agreed to terms of use, ecocho violated terms of use, hence google pulled out.

By: statominimo

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:04:27

I'm from Italy. In Italy there was an article about Ecocho in the website of the most popular newspaper "Corriere della Sera". It's one of most visiting italian site. (www.corriere.it)

By: dutchduc

Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:54:03

yes, when i first saw ecocho i have maken it my homepage =)

By: Chris H

Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:50:17

I still love Ecocho and I am totally in agreement with Emily. They've taken some pretty major steps to ensure that the trees are official (how much more could they really have done than only use a government agency? Plus KPMG off their own back, fair enough!) and what would you rather see? Trees get planted or Google get fat? I'm sorry, but global warming or not, carbon offsetting doing good or not, I'd rather see lots of green trees than lots of Google business people pretending that they're Jesus, saving us all from a boring workplace and a limited Internet. Tom, check your facts!! The Google "rules" state that, charity or not, sites shouldn't encourage people to click on ads for another incentive, be it charity, trees or Britney's rehab. It doesn't matter that those other sites are charity, Google pulled the plug on Ecocho for doing EXACTLY the same thing these charity sites do. It's double standards and Google's power is simply out of control. Bring on independent control of the Internet. No more Microsoft, no more Google running the totalitarian show. Fairness, please.

By: Jamy

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:05:10

Hallo! Great!! Netherlands is in 4th place! Keep going on Netherlands!!! Holland de beste!!

By: Tim Macdonald

Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:03:05

Hi Tom, Thanks for your post. I apologise for not writing earlier - I have been extraordinarily busy. To answer your request, I thought the SMH article lacked some balance. The journalist maintains otherwise and he is entitled to that view. Of course opinions can differ. I would like to correct factual errors in the article, however, and bring to light information that was not published. Users can then make up their own minds. The article said: "Google claims it is carbon neutral, whereas the servers powering sites such as Ecocho are not." Ecocho does use carbon-neutral servers. We informed the journalist of this error. The article read: "He (Macdonald) would not say how much profit his company was making from the site ... " In response to a question about Ecocho's profit, I said we'd made a loss not a profit. I certainly acknowledged the cost of growing trees would (hopefully) be less than the advertising revenue. Really, how else could we afford to grow trees? To be clear, we hope Ecocho will turn a profit. When we first conceived of Ecocho, we crunched numbers and estimated it would need to grow a minimum of 150,000+ trees before even nearing the break-even mark. Ecocho has considerable set-up & operating costs. It will only make profit if we duly grow a very large number of trees. Now that Google has disabled Ecocho, all targets will be harder to achieve and it will likely take longer to plant that number of trees. As for when/if Ecocho makes a profit, the margins will be nothing close to the reported profit margins that Google's search business achieves. Google is in its own profitability league. Also reported in the article: "The benefit of specialist green search engines is questionable because Google itself has invested heavily in green initiatives." We would've welcomed an independent expert's view in the article on whether they thought Ecocho had any benefits. We consulted carbon reduction professionals before we built Ecocho or even approached Google and Yahoo about the idea. Those carbon experts told us that growing 2,000 trees is roughly equivalent as a carbon-reduction benefit to taking 200 cars off the road for a year. For the record, we applaud Google and Yahoo for their 'green-ness'. They should be encouraged. The search technology that powers sites like Ecocho is carbon-neutral according to their staff. So if Ecocho grows trees in addition to that, and it's also carbon neutral, I can't see the logic that Ecocho offers no benefits. Ecocho's 200,000+ visitors presumably saw a similar value-add or they wouldn't have kept coming back. My biggest concern is the article does appear to be a pre-conceived angle in mind from the start. There was no mention of positives such as the large number of trees already funded by Ecocho searches (check the stats on our home page). Nor does the article mention Ecocho's carbon credit audit process which involves a bona fide auditor, KPMG, for verification purposes. All these factors combined can make an article unbalanced. Despite or because of the points above, and from several reactions to the article I've received, there appears to be a perception generated that Ecocho offers no benefits. The inference of questionable intentions has also moved beyond Ecocho and onto my own professional and personal reputation. I have to admit some of the commentary subsequent to the article has been very unpleasant. I also feel for others that have worked hard on Ecocho when they see or hear some of those comments. Thankfully there is still a lot of support from users. If users philosophically disagree with the concept of Ecocho, and whether it adds value, then they shouldn't use it. Similarly Google Adsense advertisers always had the ability to opt-out of advertising on Ecocho. It's a standard Google advertiser function. Advertisers and users have always been protected. It's a simple matter of choice. Whatever people think of 'for-profits' being involved in environmental or charitable issues is a personal matter. I commend not-for-profits and charities; I support them in my personal life. I also commend businesses that make profits, especially on projects that are trying to do some good. I have not hidden but responded to all enquiries from journalists. I have absolutely no problems with journalists asking tough questions but I do think any reporter's job is to be fair and balanced. Anything that may be subjective should be labelled as such. Links to other news pieces are below: Google ditches green search engine for planting trees - IT News Ecocho in Google's bad books - Australian IT - Australian IT Tree-planting Ecocho search engine dumped by Google - IT Wire Google chops down 'tree planting' search engine - ZDNet Australia Google kills 'eco' search engine - The Inquirer Google bars new environmentally-friendly search engine - Tech Herald Google dumps green search site - PC Pro Tom, I also want to say that this response is not a personal attack on the SMH journalist. Being a journalist can be exceptionally hard work. It is deadline driven, tough work, and deciphering spin from fact requires a lot of effort. This journalist should be acknowledged for at least asking the tough questions. Ciao, Tim Macdonald

By: Maia

Sat, 03 May 2008 09:11:58

Why don't you "import" Ecocho in Romania? Most people are "environmentally-friendly"=) Keep going on, Ecocho!!

By: UnhappywithGoogle

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:04:12

I've got to say that I'm very surprised and dissapointed with google for this. Google has always presented to the public as having our best interests at heart. This may be the start of their true colours shining through... Let's hope not!

By: Glenn

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:08:03

This is quite ridiculous on Google's part and I was amazed to hear about it. I understand Google's perspective, that there may be some sort of issue regarding the use of their technologies with Ecocho, maybe even a significant one; but to suspend service COMPLETELY is unjustifiable! The altruistic elements of this endeavor outweigh any form of bureaucratic fallacy that has made Google believe the best solution would be to halt usage altogether I ask, beyond the emails to adsense-support, what can we do as users? Online petitions? Pertinent information circulation? What? Google must revisit this decision and find a viable balance between Ecocho's needs and Google's policy. To not do so is unacceptable. Kudos Yahoo! Boodos Google!

By: Hrm

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:20:26

Did they tell you why? And can you tell us why if they did. It sucks but I would like to hear both sides of the story before getting outraged.

By: ecocho

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:31:30

Hi Hrm, I understand that you’d like to hear both sides. Google told us via email that Ecocho is in breach of the adsense terms and conditions. Specifically, Google says they do not permit sites that offer "non-monetary incentives to users to perform searches on (sic: or) click on ads". We have tried contacting Google to clarify and fix any issues together but we haven't gotten a response yet. For the record, Ecocho has never encouraged users to click on ads. In fact, we've never even spoken about clicks. We don't believe that Ecocho was sending fraudulent clicks to advertisers. If it had, Google would've immediately stopped Ecocho's service on day 1 and given this as their main reason. To be clear, Ecocho absolutely condemns fraudulent clicks. To be a real success, Ecocho must have genuine benefits for everyone - from the users, right through to the advertisers and our search technology providers. We met with the Google Adsense team in Australia before launching the site and they gave the project the go ahead, so we don’t understand this action now. As for governance, we’ve been clear about the important facts. And we’ve made every effort to be as accountable as we can, enlisting KPMG to audit our carbon credits and buying only government-issued credits. We don’t see what more we could do in this regard. Please keep your comments coming. Thanks, Alex Ecocho’s Web Producer

By: ecocho

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:37:42

Thank you all for your posts. We must comply with Google's wishes and will be doing that now. However, those of you that do wish to support Ecocho, please do contact Google directly expressing your view and by all means protest at the decision. We don't feel that Ecocho is in the slightest ambiguous. We have been infinitely more accontable and verifiable with regards to our carbon credits than all of our competition (performing a similar function). Google has interestingly allowed to those sites to remain active. Glenn, please do what you can to express your feelings about this issue. Thanks. Alex Ecocho’s Web Producer

By: ecocho

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:26:14

P.S. Never let it be said that Google doesn't have a sense of irony, whacking Ecocho with this ban on Earth Day of all days!! (Check their logo today) Alex @ Ecocho

By: Glenn

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:57:18

I made a basic form email for people to use if they so desire(below). If you wish to change it in anyway, feel free; but I thought that the person who wouldn't send an email otherwise may do so now. Also, Alex or any Ecocho personnel, please make any semantical changes or clarifications to better illustrate the point and repost the better form email for people to use. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Adsense Support, I am one of the many users that frequent http://www.ecocho.com, a site recently denied the use of Google search technologies. I must express my disappointment with this event. However disappointed, I understand the value of the specific point of policy that is in conflict: "AdSense does not currently permit sites that offer monetary or non-monetary incentives to users to perform searches on click on ads." I also understand the the argument regarding the "inability to verify the accuracy of any charitable claims and need to protect the user and advertiser experiences." This is equitable and overall good policy practice. I do, however, wish to implore the altruistic nature and the user-demand for such a service. Due to these reasons I ask, with a voice that echoes many others, that the time needed to ensure and verify the legitimacy of this service is taken. We are confident you will find Ecocho to be completely accurate and genuine. We respectfully ask that proper attention is given to the wishes of the Ecocho community and that a viable agreement with the http://www.ecocho.com staff be made promptly. Sincerely, Ecocho and Google User ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PS- If people agree, I think an online petition should be started to prove the value of this service and the overall demand for it. (http://www.petitiononline.com/create_petition.html)

By: Chris

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:47:21

This is crap. Look at the sites from Prodege. You pick your favorite band, and every time you search you could win swag bucks. With those you can buy stuff with them. Isn't that pretty much the exact same thing as what ecocho is doing. Well in a simplistic form. Prodege is powered by google and ask. This is crap, google needs to lighten up.

By: Alexander

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:06:50

Maybe we just have to make the Google-people know, that the oxygen,coming from Ecocho-Trees is the oxygen that keeps them alive.

By: Haldun

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:37:29

Well, correct if I'm wrong, but google'S decisions seems to be rather business driven. I suppose they did not expect this huge response on ecocho and are afraid it will keep growing immensely. So, at least to my mind and as far as I understood ecocho's business model, google just want to have an bigger piece of that cake. So, as long as yahoo is supporting you, well, who cares. I'll keep yahoo positively in mind - quite in contrast to google. All those news about "google the villain" seem to be quite right. Nevertherless I'd like to hear them response on thios blog, face to face with us customers...

By: Nicola

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:48:43

I have just written to Google to complain about their decision. Hope it will be useful for Ecocho...

By: Riccardo

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:02:21

until the service stay off, we are forced to use Yahoo

By: ecocho

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:18:14

Thanks so much for all your support guys. We’re disappointed. There are quite a few sites out there using Google technology and imploring people to search for cash incentive. We hoped that we had highlighted our accountability enough to distinguish Ecocho from those sites, by legitimately supporting the growth of trees and keeping our service above board and official (KPMG audit/government-issued credits). Glenn, thank you so much for doing the petition form. We are going to feature it on our site and try to make it as easy as possible for people to use it. Again, thanks so much for your support guys. Alex @ Ecocho

By: j

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:31:23

sjeez the DO NO EVIL line is getting more ridiculous by the day , I want trees google, i'm switching to yahoo until you do!! J

By: Valentina

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:35:24

I'll submit my email, in hope it will help others too. It's a little more on the sensitive side than Glen's one, so that we can have both approaches to the thing (hoping that one of these will work). ______________________________________ Obj: Ecocho Greetings, I am an Italian user, and I have always used Firefox for my browsing and Google for my searchs. I was glad when I saw your policy of aiding this new service, that makes users search as they have ever done, but with an eco-knack. As a consumer, as a woman, as a future mother I strongly advise that you change your mind about the collaboration with the ecocho project, exspecially as today is earth day, as Google Italia displays. Otherwise I suppose I'll have to use Yahoo for my searshs, Microsoft ties or not. Best regards,

By: Angelo

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:37:15

I think Google is afraid of Ecocho becoming more popular than Google itself...

By: nicola

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:37:50

Guys I am happy I hear disappointing and angry comments on Google move. I believe in Ecocho's plan and I think Google should trust the iniative as well. Asutralians have very nice ideas in general and in this occasion they just had a wonderful one! It's good for the planet! I got the chance to discuss a bit with Alex few days ago and I had very good feelings! Google, please, put your thinking apart, be intelligent. cheers

By: Dniel

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:13:42

I`m an Ecocho user from the Netherlands. It`s great that Yahoo supports ecocho. I`m a bit curious about the reasons why google won`t co-op with ecocho. Today is Earth day and they have their logo turned into some kind of earthly google thing-a-ma-bouth...so why won`t they let ecocho use google? money, power and fame. such a shame

By: Jerry

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:38:33

This is really bad. I certainly hope this issue gets worked out, so good luck to you guys. How strange that it should happen on Earth Day, of all days.

By: Paola

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:54:29

I want to support your way to search on the web. I hope that google go back and you will find a solution together, will reach a common issue to play the correct role in the web life. I will continue to use ecocho. Paola

By: Aotearoa

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:55:44

Decisions like this do nothing for Googles image. "Don't be evil" seems to have a number of caveats that would seem to actually encourage evil like censoring Google in China and now pulling the pin on the Ecocho content. I think Google cares very little about the planet and a lot about their business model, stock price and bottom line. Shame on you google for not supporting the 'cho. Disenfranchised Google user and passionate Ecocho user

By: Andrea

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:01:21

Today is Earth Day (as Google remark to us with its logo) and Google itself blocks Ecocho... Google SHAME ON YOU!

By: Michiel

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:03:11

I've sent a mail to Google to say how unhappy I am. I suggested this great site to several people and they were all very happy about it: doing what we always do (searching) but saving the planet. How can they be against this? It's the kind of stuff people like to have: rescuing our planet without having to do a single thing. Except of having a new start page or search engine in the browser.

By: Maarten

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:10:56

Such a shame.. I don't like searching with Yahoo, so Google hás to come back..!

By: Maarten

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:13:14

@ money, power and fame. such a shame so tue.. kind of weird that they decided to stop supporting ecocho the day before earth day..

By: Alessandra

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:13:29

dear ecocho, I'm an italian user and I was so glad for your web-site, new for me, and I tell about it to all my friends! what a bad thing for google to stop Ecocho from using its search technology... I just wrote to google ad sense for my disappoint on their decision I hope that all our e-mail will be useful to change their mind... best regards and have a nice day!

By: nettaredivino

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:26:02

Google wants supremacy in the search engine of the Internet. Too much money is at stake ... Compliments for your idea that I will always support.

By: Ecocho big french fan !

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:36:11

I like Ecocho and I like search with google but i can't do the same. Not nice from google do that on earth day ! I read french people work on ecocho : continuez les gars ! jean lou

By: Bas

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:41:06

Just sent them my own email. Would hate to have to switch to Yahoo.

By: Tom

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:58:57

According to the T&C's, Google are actually in the right. Having said that, the quoted response is a little ambiguous. What exactly do they classify as the incentive on the ecocho home page? I can only see the "You search. We grow trees" statement as the incentive. Perhaps if you remove references regarding the above they may take it a little easier, as petty and stupid as that may sound. At the end of the day, ecocho is using google technology, hence they do have to abide by the T&C's. I'm sure it will get sorted out though. Sure Googles decision is business driven, but surprise surprise, they are a business. If google wants a piece of the pie, then they will just buy ecocho, like they did with picasa etc. Oh and before anyone says Google is now evil and wants to ruin search and kill trees and baby reindeer, take a look at google.org, they do put a lot of money to worthwhile causes. PS - no i do not work for google. PPS - as much as i would love to use ecocho, i'll have to wait until google comes back on it. I find some of the things Yahoo does, particularly with regards to China, disgraceful and cant in good faith use them. Good luck with getting Google back and with the site. I think it is a fantastic concept and a very worthwhile initiative.

By: msa

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:02:22

I very sad that gooogle stop echocho.com It's so easy to help to rescue the earth, but google... Buuuuh, Google, do nothing evil^^

By: paul

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:11:18

So sorry for Cho Cho ! so sad that google be afraid about you on the earth day ! google or big brother.

By: FPC

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:12:14

Guys, this was a great service. That's why I wrote to Google too. You can read below the email sent, however if you haven't enough time, just note that, in Google Corporate Site, it is written: "Google's Green Commitment This current initiative is just the next step in Google’s continuing commitment to a clean and green energy future. We have been working hard on energy efficiency and making our business environmentally sustainable. Last spring we announced that we would be carbon neutral for 2007 and beyond, and we’re on track to meet this goal. We’ve taken concrete steps to reduce our carbon footprint and accelerate improvements in green technology....." ?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??! You can find the whole text at http://www.google.com/corporate/green/energy/index.html "To: adsense-support, renewables mostra dettagli 10.17 (2 ore fa) Dear Google, today, the earth day, I tried to help our Earth searching through Ecocho, using, as always, Google as "the" search engine. But... the same Google that today shows an earth logo on its homepage, has disabled search through Ecocho. This does not make any sense, at least to me. And I suppose it make nonsense also for other thousand of people that in last week discovered that wonderful service offered by Ecocho (3.290 trees = 3.290.000 searches... it's not a small number). I do not know why Google has choosen to stop that service, I am sure Google had its own reasons as Ecocho had its own... but it is really not a great marketing campaign, nor a great step forward for your "Google's Green Commitment" (at least, Google can think about implementing an Ecocho-like service), if it is not supported by an official, understandable and good reason. My last question, is: how can you state "Last spring we announced that we would be carbon neutral for 2007 and beyond, and we're on track to meet this goal" (from your corporate site) and then "Unfortunately, Google has decided to stop Ecocho from using its search technology" (Ecocho home page) without giving to your users any reason? Sincerely, fpc"

By: Google switches off Ecocho.com support | Open Source PR

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:22:44

[...] motto is “Don’t be evil!” has done something at least inadequate today. Google stopped providing “eco search engine” Ecocho.com with their search technology, apparently [...]

By: titi

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:32:29

well, let wait and see if Google changes his mind, but why not try to link other search engines or even try to make an ecocho one?

By: Pat

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:36:40

I have to admit, while this is a great idea in principle, Google doesn't seem to support *anyone* doing this. See the first comment here: http://www.gadgetell.com/tech/comment/google-finding-it-for-the-cure/ Seems like all of the charity-style search engines are using Yahoo now.

By: jesus

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:54:41

they still support several site www.ripple.org www.veosearch.com

By: Vithiya

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:02:27

Really disappointing!

By: Randall

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:19:43

Hi, I'm new to this site and forum, but I had been using a search engine called Aidgle up until a few months ago, when the same thing happened. It was run by a Peruvian, university friend and was giving the proceeds to victims of the Earthquake that happened there recently. Anyway I agree with the objectives of the Google policy which aim to protect the users from being duped into giving an unknown person, group or cause their support. But I think the implementation is misguided and suggest Google find a way that allows users to feel 'protected' but still allows them to support causes they deem worthy. Here is my email, a modified form of Glenn's Dear Adsense Support, I am one of the many users that frequent http://www.ecocho.com and used to frequent www.aidgle.com, sites recently denied the use of Google search technologies. I understand the value of the specific point of policy that is in conflict: “AdSense does not currently permit sites that offer monetary or non-monetary incentives to users to perform searches or click on ads.” I also understand the the argument regarding the “inability to verify the accuracy of any charitable claims and need to protect the user and advertiser experiences.” However, I am somewhat taken aback at the Google response to the popularity of these two particular sites. As a forward looking, mold-breaking company, why can't Google come to some kind of agreement that would allow users to support those important causes? One possible compromise would be to lower the revenue received and use the difference to pay a third-party investigative team or certification organization to certify that the money is going where they say it is. The site could even be required to have something like a pie chart created by the third-party organization that would tell exactly where the money is going. There are already similar certification organizations for organics and charities, so why not come up with a creative solution that lets everyone be part winner? Good publicity for Google, feel-good for the users, trees or aid to earthquake victims for the world? Sincerely, Randall Rubinstein

By: No!!!

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:34:05

Hoffentlich startet Google seinen Service für Ecocho bald wieder!!! Das so ein tolles Konzept für eine Suchmaschine durch Google ausgebremst wurde, entäuscht mich!!!!!!!

By: Google Bans Ecocho on Earth Day | BasBasBas.com

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:46:13

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By: Jean-Charles

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:47:41

And they think they will stop us using ecocho... I used to use google, and few days ago I discovered Ecocho (The best idea since Internet). The search engine which help the earth. I started to used it (with the google search engine). And today, which is the 'Earth day', Google decide to stop sponsoring ecocho. What does that mean? Do they think they are doing enough for the earth? What did they do? hummm I know, they changed their logo for 1 DAY, with nice trees, a nice river, and a nice sky. But is that really helping the earth... I don't think so! The thing is that the pollution issue is a problem for everyone on earth even Google, so if we are all doing an effort, it can help... So I will continue to use Ecocho, even if Google is not on board anymore. Don't give up guys, because the pollution will not give up!

By: Alfredo

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:54:48